This unusual family name has been floating around in our family for ages. Curiosity finally got the better of me and I began family research on this name. I wanted to discover the surname history behind Ogle Moore. I started with my grandfather JOHN JAMES OGLE MOORE. I soon discovered there are other John James Ogle Moores and even other Ogle Moores as I went through my family search. The name is Ogle is most commonly a Christian or middle name and teamed with the surname Moore.
Researching the history of family has lead to many interesting facts and stories about the Ogle Moore connection. Taking us mostly to a family history, Ireland and Australia. Several of us have been working on the family tree for Ogle Moores. This blog will be used to post stories, facts, myths and mysteries of the Ogle Moores.
Maybe you will be able to add to this family genealogy and have further Ogle Moore stories to include. Perhaps you have the Ogle Moore family crest? Or you could add your family tree.
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Amateur genealogists are so lucky today. We have the world wide web. There is so much information available at our fingertips. 2o years ago family research could only have been achieved by trawling through microfiche, books and other records held in libraries around the world. Nowdays many of us can sit in our own loungerooms and search the web for information on our family history. Some of this information on family genealogy is available at no cost and other information is available at a reasonable cost.There is even softwareavailable that can build a very detailed and complex family tree on your own home computer. Thank goodness for the web!
Ireland 1808
Irish Marriage Records - Not all is Lost
When conduting my family research I started with little information. In my search for the illusive John James Ogle Moore I had little to go on. I had read that most of the Church of Ireland registers were destroyed in the fire at the Public Record Office in Dublin in 1922. As I no dates and was unsure of names and places I did not think I could apply for any records and that my family search had ended.
Finally at desperation point to uncover this family genealogy I decided to apply for a marriage record with minimal information. Imagine my shock when the marriage certificate arrived in the mail only weeks later. This was the link I had been looking for to connect my family tree into another family tree with the same surname history. This gave me many generations of family history.
So when searching for family history in Ireland take the chance, use the little bits of information you have and apply for the records. You could be lucky and your family tree will unfold before your eyes like mine.
The story told on the link below is of the demise of this family at Kilbride. The Moore's friend Mrs Smith tells of The Very Reverend William Ogle Moore's generosity and charity but she also speaks of his weakness towards his wife and children. It is reported that the family lived beyond their means and had to sell off goods and land. The Very Reverend William Ogle Moore then takes up writing to make ends meet.
Mrs Smith kept a series of diaries where she frequently mentions the Very Reverend William Ogle Moore. She says he lavishes much affection on his children and spoils his wife with new dresses. Mrs Smith does not report on this in a positive manner, but I love that he was a generous and affectionate man.
John Ogle Moore 1867 Albury NSW - 1951 Parramatta NSW.
John Ogle Moore ventured to Western Australia where he met Eena Lee Waldeck. They were married in Fremantle in 1897 and Eena gave birth to two daughters, Phyllis and Jean. Much of their time was spent in the Goldfields of Western Australia where John was a Mine Manager for Bewick Moreing. They were part of the "Smart Set"in the Goldfields. Families of the mining elite. The had servants, attended balls, played tennis and often the wives spent months away with their family. The Moores socialised with the likes of Herbert Hoover, the young American engineer, who later became Preseident of the United States of America. This lifestyle in the Goldfields tooks its toll on many marriages. Unfortunately the Moore's marriage was not to last and they divorced in 1911. Eena divorced her husband on the grounds of adultery. They children and their mother returned to Fremantle to live with their grandmama and never saw their father again. Some of their life together in the Goldfields of Western Australia is recorded in the book "Daughters of Midas" Norma King. Highlights:
The newly weds caught the train to Coolgardie where their first home consisted of four tents, one the maids room and one for the piano. Later they moved into a company home the same one the Hoover's lived in at one point. This house was known as the "Hoover House".
Herbert Hoover was godfather to their first born, Phyllis. He bought her a silver napkin ring.
When the second child (Jean) was born she received a gift of a silver locket from the same.
Phyllis went to dance classes and when Anna Pavlova was in Western Australia Phyllis danced for her. Pavlova was impressed but Phylis's grandmama would not hear of her grandaughter being on stage.
From: King, N. (1988) Daughters of Midas, Hesperian Press.
"MOORE, JAMES (1807-1895), lawyer, pastoralist and banker, was born in January 1807 in Dublin, son of GeorgeMoore, Q.C., LL.D., of Kilbride, County Wicklow, and his wife Elizabeth, daughter of James Armstrong. In 1826-31 his father represented Dublin City in parliament and was a descendant of Garrett, first Viscount Moore of Drogheda, whose ancestry traced from the union of John of Gaunt and Katherine Swynford. At 16 James entered Trinity College, Dublin (LL.M., 1827; B.A., 1828; M.A., 1832). For twelve years he studied and travelled extensively in Europe, on his last trips accompanied by his friends, Redmond Barry and W. F. Stawell. In 1840 Moore was admitted to the English Bar but did not practise and later that year migrated to Melbourne. He bought land on the St Kilda Esplanade and in partnership with C. J. Griffith took up Glenmore station near Melton. In 1842 Moore married Harriet Maria, daughter of Dr John Watton who had arrived at Melbourne in 1839 and practised medicine before taking up Mount Rouse station. The marriage was blessed with five sons and eight daughters.
From the first Moore was enthusiastic at prospects in the colony and his letters home encouraged many Irish contemporaries including Stawell to migrate to Port Phillip. In 1843 Moore, Griffith and Molesworth Greene went overland on horseback to Portland Bay to study the pastoral possibilities of the Western District. In June 1848 Moore sold his interest in Glenmore to Greene and in 1849 acquired Barjarg station near Benalla. Like many early colonists he was troubled by the vast changes after gold was discovered but, believing that the solution lay in religion rather than politics, he returned to Britain in 1853. He studied arts and theology at Caius College, Cambridge (M.A., 1854), but difficulties with some of the Thirty-nine Articles induced him not to be ordained. In 1856 he returned to Victoria where he developed Warrenbayne near Wangaratta and other stations. By 1863 he had sold them all and made his home in Lonsdale Street, Melbourne.
In 1864 Moore acquired a farm at Moonee Ponds, Melbourne. He sat regularly as a justice of the peace, served on the committee of the Melbourne Hospital, was prominent in the Anglican community and assisted many charitable institutions. In 1867 he became comptroller of the Melbourne Savings Bank. Despite lack of experience in this field his appointment proved fortunate. A strong believer in hard work and thrift, his conservatism in lending lost him some popularity but the policies he helped to promote increased public confidence in the bank and kept it aloof from the rise and collapse of the hysterical land boom. Numerous branches of the bank were opened in Melbourne suburbs and it became one of the world's great savings banks. When Moore retired in 1892 savings deposits with the bank amounted to almost £3,750,000. He died on 6 October 1895 at Richmond and was buried in the old Melbourne cemetery.
Although a conservative Anglo-Irish patrician and perhaps too conscious of his aristocratic ancestry, Moore was learned, high principled, deeply religious and kind. Many descendants live in Melbourne; a plaque depicting him late in life and papers are held by the family" (Charles Francis available at: Australian Dictionary of Biographies online).
MOORE, JAMES (1807-1895), lawyer, pastoralist and banker, was born in January 1807 in Dublin, son of GeorgeMoore, Q.C., LL.D., of Kilbride, County Wicklow, and his wife Elizabeth, daughter of James Armstrong. In 1826-31 his father represented Dublin City in parliament and was a descendant of Garrett, first Viscount Moore of Drogheda, whose ancestry traced from the union of John of Gaunt and Katherine Swynford. At 16 James entered Trinity College, Dublin (LL.M., 1827; B.A., 1828; M.A., 1832). For twelve years he studied and travelled extensively in Europe, on his last trips accompanied by his friends, Redmond Barry and W. F. Stawell. In 1840 Moore was admitted to the English Bar but did not practise and later that year migrated to Melbourne. He bought land on the St Kilda Esplanade and in partnership with C. J. Griffith took up Glenmore station near Melton. In 1842 Moore married Harriet Maria, daughter of Dr John Watton who had arrived at Melbourne in 1839 and practised medicine before taking up Mount Rouse station. The marriage was blessed with five sons and eight daughters.
From the first Moore was enthusiastic at prospects in the colony and his letters home encouraged many Irish contemporaries including Stawell to migrate to Port Phillip. In 1843 Moore, Griffith and Molesworth Greene went overland on horseback to Portland Bay to study the pastoral possibilities of the Western District. In June 1848 Moore sold his interest in Glenmore to Greene and in 1849 acquired Barjarg station near Benalla. Like many early colonists he was troubled by the vast changes after gold was discovered but, believing that the solution lay in religion rather than politics, he returned to Britain in 1853. He studied arts and theology at Caius College, Cambridge (M.A., 1854), but difficulties with some of the Thirty-nine Articles induced him not to be ordained. In 1856 he returned to Victoria where he developed Warrenbayne near Wangaratta and other stations. By 1863 he had sold them all and made his home in Lonsdale Street, Melbourne.
In 1864 Moore acquired a farm at Moonee Ponds, Melbourne. He sat regularly as a justice of the peace, served on the committee of the Melbourne Hospital, was prominent in the Anglican community and assisted many charitable institutions. In 1867 he became comptroller of the Melbourne Savings Bank. Despite lack of experience in this field his appointment proved fortunate. A strong believer in hard work and thrift, his conservatism in lending lost him some popularity but the policies he helped to promote increased public confidence in the bank and kept it aloof from the rise and collapse of the hysterical land boom. Numerous branches of the bank were opened in Melbourne suburbs and it became one of the world's great savings banks. When Moore retired in 1892 savings deposits with the bank amounted to almost £3,750,000. He died on 6 October 1895 at Richmond and was buried in the old Melbourne cemetery.
Although a conservative Anglo-Irish patrician and perhaps too conscious of his aristocratic ancestry, Moore was learned, high principled, deeply religious and kind. Many descendants live in Melbourne; a plaque depicting him late in life and papers are held by the family (Charles Francis available at: http://adb.anu.edu.au/biography/moore-james-4232).
Richard Ogle Moore B: 21st Aug 1868 Albury, NSW D: 20th May 1958 Chatswood, NSW. Married: Charlotte Evelyn Robinson Children:
Evelyn Elizabeth 13th March 1901 Malvern, Victoria - 1980.
Richard Cappur Moore 17th June 1902 Mt Hope, NSW.
William Ogle Moore 11th Jan 1904 Mt Hope, NSW.
Barbara Moore 30th Nov 1907 Mt Hope - 1965.
Richard Ogle Moore wrote his memoirs entitled: "Sunlit Plains Extended - The Making of a Bushman".
"Moore, Richard Ogle (1868–1958)
Mr. Richard Ogle Moore, who died in Sydney on 19th May at the age of 90, was a well known station manager in New South Wales and Queensland for many years. He retired from active work in 1935 and had been living in retirement in Sydney since then.
The late Mr. Moore was born at Albury and educated at Geelong Grammar School, Victoria. He commenced his pastoral career as a jackeroo on Kilfera Station, Ivanhoe, and rose to the position of overseer on that station. He was then appointed manager of Coan Downs, Lake Cargellico, N.S.W., and remained there for 28 years until 1915. For short periods Mr. Moore managed Coombing Park, at Carcoar, N.S.W., and Caragabal, Forbes, N.S.W., but in 1917 he went to Windouran, Deniliquin, N.S.W., where he started a sheep stud.
When Windouran was sold Mr. Moore was appointed manager of Bellevue, Yaraka, Queensland, for Messrs. A. Walker and Co., and then in 1926 he took over the management of Messrs. Clarke and Whiting's Isis Downs Station, Isisford, Queensland, where he remained until retiring in 1935. Whilst at Isis Downs he was a councillor and chairman of the Isisford Shire, and earlier he had been a Shire Councillor whilst at Windouran.
Mr. Moore's wife died in 1936, but he is survived by two sons (R.C., of Charleville, Q., and W.O., of Shadyside, Longreach, Q.), and two daughters (Mrs. Mcintosh, of Forbes, N.S.W., and Mrs. Alec. Ramsay, of Toowoomba, Q.) "
Ogle James Moore B: Ireland 1837 Married: Iasabel Clara Webb (B: 1848). Children: Richard Ogle Moore, John M Moore, Margeruiete Scott Moore, Linda CN Moore, Elizabeth Gertrude TN Moore, Thomas Mitchell Moore, James Ogle Moore (All born in NSW between 1867 and 1877 and pictured here).
In this image Richard is holding the hat, the man next to him must be his brother John M Moore . The taller boy at the back must be Thomas Mitchell Moore and the smallest boy James Ogle Moore. The girls dressed in light coloured clothing must be Margeruiete, Linda and Elizabeth. The children' s mothr and wife of Ogle James Moore, Clara Moore nee Webb (left) Clara's mother, Mrs Webb. She later married Thomas Mitchell and became known as Granny Mitchell (centre right).
John Ogle Moore B: 1801 Father: George Ogle Moore Mother: Elizabeth armstrong Married: Elizabeth Jones Children: James Ogle Moore B: Ireland 1837 and Arthur William Moore B: Ireland 1836. Arrived: Aboard the "Rattler" in 1852 with his wife and children. Owned Tallarook Station via Seymour in Victoria Australia.
Born: Dublin 1862
Died: Princess Rd Kew, Melbourne, Victoria 1943 aged 81 years
Married: Chirst Church, Rev B. Newport White, South Yarra, Melbourne,Victoria 11th November 1890. Marreid Ethel McCrae Palmer daughter of TW Palmer and Katherine Susannah McCrae.
Son of John James Ogle Moore and Susan Griffiths.
George migrated to Australia in August 1863 as an infant, on board the "Result" with his parents. He was their first born child. Four more children would be born in Australia, James (John) Ogle Moore, Emma Teresa Moore, Alice Henrietta Ogle Moore and Jane Elizabeth Francis Moore.
George was a student at Wesley College. He sat his matriculation, University of Melbourne in 1882. He went onto study medicine and graduated Doctor MBCS England 1890. He was registered as a doctor in Victoria, Tasmania (1888) and Western Australia (1896).
He death is recorded as at the family home in Princess Rd Kew, Melbourne, Victoria.
This is a poem written to Maryann Moore by George Ogle. He proposed to Maryann however, she knocked back his offer. Later George married Maryann's sister Elizabeth and Maryann married her cousin John. This couple named their son after George Ogle who had no children of his own.